Yes, my major suggestion is to NOT RUSH this war IC. Take time to make sure everything will pan out smoothly. Take time to make sure Miiros will not be decimating your supply lines because for all practical purposes, Miiros has the ability to control the international waters of the Rosario and Sevrun Seas.
How could little S be a threat to and already bigger, better equipt and mobilized Akiiryu? And yeah, we’ll hafta see what the ASE says…
And If I read Stilistra’s statements right, Stilistra will start the war when ASE starts constricting the river…
That’s true, Miiros… and I don’t want a hostile move from the City
Just because you guys use the Sevrun to fuel this does not mean we will necessarily sit idly by. You will still be amassing a large number of forces near Akiiryu, even if from the other side.
Stilistra, we need to change the plans. The ASE have two sections of coastline divided by land. One near the Sevrun and one near Eebay and plot 51. Perhaps a Varian fleet in the east (Sevrun) and confed fleet in the west. It seems a bit more practical then having one divided Confed fleet.
As for Deltannian concerns, the confed fleet will have to pass by deltannia if Tag does not allow confed use of the canal. So that could be a problem.
Also I would like to state that Damak Var will do its best to preserve neutrality if any non-puppet nations go to war against us, especially Deltannia, Akiiryu, and Adaptus. Even if that means withdrawing my military support. It’s just something I would do IC.
After carefully considering the map, Aristocratic Confederation, you do realize that the only way to safely reach the Sevrun would be to go all the way around the south? This is doable but would require massive logistical efforts. Obviously you would have Miiros as an ally, but I think that having Damak Var as an ally would also help. I’m keeping my opinion in this one neutral, of course, not saying that you must have the alliance, and not saying that Damak Var must accept, but the only other options would be to go north and run into Deltannian patrols, or to go through the Canal controlled by Tagmatium, if permitted of course, and to attack directly at Akiiryo. Just laying out the options. Of course, if you could get another ally going south, it would help.
Another idea, AC/Varian force goes around to the sevrun and invades 48 via amphibious landing. We need to take control of the 48 coastline, all of it. That would cut off their route to the sea. Then Joint Varian/AC naval task force blockades the remaining coastline of the ASE in the Sevrun (plot 32’s coastline).
Akiiryu and his crew enters the war against Stilistra. Possibility of war with Aki causes panic in Damak Var, then a mild stock market crash (in my country). Damak Var withdraws military support (because we are scared and have to), all Varian units return to Damak Var and Stilistra/AC do what you want.
IC, Damak Var is not interested in a war against Aki or any non puppet nations at the moment.
A land war? That far away from my home? I don’t think the AC would commit to such a dangerous adventure.
Be prepared for Adaptus to join in soon. IC Adaptus would be srarting to get angered with having so manylarge naval movements floatng about close to the north west.
My little naval fleet A) HASN’T LEFT YET and  is going the sout route and won’t come near Adpt…
Yes, that why I said soon. Also, even it’s it’s not near Adaptus. Adaptus sees all. andwe dont like suspicious nations crawling around international waters,especialy if allies have ask us to give them a hand. ![]()
Confederation squids can ‘crawl’ anywhere along the international waters just as well as Adapton ones can. What exactly might you be plannin’?
And what’s with this meeting about an anti-Stilistran stance? As far as this Rp has gone, all I can see is Stilistra rallying his people and building his military a little. He’s not been hostile to anyone, nor is his military capable of spreading chaos like ooh say, Aki’s can. In the actuality of this, Stilistra is still a minor power, here. Making some sort of concerted effort to lay the smack down seems silly…
Clearly the northwesterners are all paranoid warmongerers, who are threatened by tiny little landlocked nations. =P
In all seriousness though, you cannot honestly take action against foreign fleet movements in international waterways far from your own nation. It’s pointless. The Aristocratic Confederation has as much right to move its ships through international waterways as Akiiryu, Tagmatium, Miiros, or Adaptus does.
What are you going to do? Sink them? Embargo them? Nothing has even happened yet and everyone is ready to come out against the AC doing anything.
Quite the point… well put, I say, well put.
I never said I was going to do anything like that did I? I sid I was going to join in soon. Akiiryu ia an ally to Adaptus, and Aaptus ows Akiiryu one for the AdSoc thing. They want help, we’ll happily give thm a hand.
Dont jump to conclusions.
The comments are fair Adpt, the AC fleet has a right to go any where it wants in international waters until such time as war or such is declared. Doesn’t mean the fleet can’t be track, tho’. Nor doesn it mean that Adpt can’t come to an ally’s aid if it sees fit.
In relation to Aki’s stance vis-a-vis Stilistra, I have spent several hundred words OOC and IC explaining Aki’s stance. As to the meeting, well that is linked to a number of things…not all to do with Stilistra…that have been bubbling for a while.
I’d still hafta say that ‘meeting’ in Deltannia seems paranoid. All these elephants allying to fight a beetle…
And your IC stance does puzle me a little… Why is Aki so anti-stilistran. You say that monarchies don’t like overtures to the status quo. But Stilistra’s little coup wasn’t some massive revolution, nor is it some radical movement that might cause a revolution in Akiiryu. All I see is Akiiryu overreacting to a small shift in the world theater.
I think it is just the Akiiryan people’s nature. They’re on top and it wants to stay that way. The see the potential for Cass to build an empire on their doorstep and they do not want that. They’re looking to the future and weighing the options I think.
Inversely, Miiros is highly suspicious of Cass, but due to national arrogance, pride, or whatever, they think they can contain or control the situation. A Stilistran Empire would not necessarily be a horrible thing in their point of view and they think they have the ability to manipulate Stilistra if they develope positive relations early on. It’s all part of a growing hubris in Miiros pretty much summed up in one of my posts where the defense minister says “We are the east.” It’s all about point of view in different states.
Also, the meeting is fine. I’m sure there have been meetings like this in reality where leaders or diplomats get together to talk about what-ifs. Nations are always looking out for those what-ifs. Didn’t the US keep a plan to invade Canada or somesuch?
First of all, we’re north_westerners_…
I don’t care if Aristocratic Confederation has naval ships around international waters. I would just like to point out that since you are going south, you will be held accountable to the realism of movements. In the Tarragat Island War, it took Deltannia a long time for the first ships to get there, and they were gathered from northern patrols, not from Deltannia itself. If so, then you’ll be okay.
And using your defense, none of the northwestern nations have done anything yet except start holding a security meeting. No troops or naval ships have been moving around. When in fact, Stilistra has been becoming increasingly warlike, not specifically toward one of us, but in general.
Also, in regards to the “overreacting to a small shift in the world theater”, nations do this all of the time. Superpowers have attempted for a long time to suppress unfriendly activities or ideals. During the age of Imperialism, this was also true. Except that here we are looking to keep peace. If nothing is done on your part, nothing will be done here, it’s that simple.
Lastly, I believe when Stilistra originally started this way back when, I said that Deltannia would get involved on the premise of losing trade connections by land. Stilistra’s RP does encompass a large amount of land on the Northern continent.
I understand it will take some time for my ships to arrive… I’m not contesting that at all.
Multinational security against a small nation that can’t threaten any of those nations alone? There is a difference between using one’s weapons (or threatening to do so), and having them for defence. Since Stilistra sits next to Aki, who is already being hostile, I think he could justify building his military even without this Rp.
You’re saying that if the AC doesn’t send it’s navy to the Sevrun, not a single nation involved in your meeting will make a move? Even when Stilistra starts the war? Bah! Using war to destroy war, militarism to prevent militarism?
Losing what trade by land? I don’t think anyone is trading the ASE (including you). Your routes to any of the players via land won’t be affected by his Rp either.