Well if they did they should use it! I’m sick of the high socialist sales tax when i go up there.
wha?
Didn’t the US keep a plan to invade Canada or somesuch?
oops, forgot there was another page of stuff.
Oooh. Well, that settles it. WAR! We cannot tolerate your page-skipping anylonger! Prepare to be subjugated! heh heh… 
I already said that you are allowed to send your ships into international waters. Of course you are, I don’t restrict that. And Deltannia would only have a problem if there was a major shift in naval power, which there isn’t. But, if we were, an unfortunate truth is that militarism often does destroy militarism. Or tries to. It’s called a preemptive strike. Besides, the meeting has proved nothing conclusive yet anyway.
Also, there’s a difference between building up a military and building up a war machine. If you recall in the IC thread, there are broadcasts pictures of something looking fairly Nazi-like. If I were Akiiryu, I don’t think I’d be too happy.
And, like Stilistra has said, there are other peoples across the nations besides established nations. We already take that for a fact, and have throughout the past. Deltannia would protect trade interests in the interior, of course. Any nations would try to protect its trade interests.
Again, lastly (me and my bulleted points), this isn’t only about you, Aristocratic Confederation. If a lot of different things happen, it could result in war. If Stilistra sends thousands of troops into Akiiryu it would start. If Deltannia started shelling any coastal nation, war would start. If any nuclear power started throwing bombs, war would start. Of course, looking at this point realistically, I’m not trying to single you out, and no one else is either. My "you"s are plural. 
“War to destroy war? In the name of Peace?” I can spell ‘hypocrisy’ using the letters in that statement. It is rather redunant to wage war in the name of peace. None of the players here are going to be attacked by Stilistra.
Again, Aki can stomp all over Stilistra. I asked the lad [stilistra] about the Nuremburg images and he told me they were the only for getting the point across. People are rallying in Stilistra just like in that one place. I don’t think he (or Stilistra) is a nazi.
So we all automatically have trade relations with all the other unclaimed nations?
Please, call me AC. It’s easier to type…
What I’m considering is how Aki can justify attacking Stilistra for Stilistra needing to attack the ASE for constricting the river. After it was, after all, Aki’s embargo which forced S to use that river extensively, anyway.
“War to destroy war? In the name of Peace?” I can spell ‘hypocrisy’ using the letters in that statement.
If you want peace prepare for war. War will not indefinitely insure peace, but it can bring peace for a while. History has proven this time and again. Look at the Pax Romana.
Basically its a up and down cycle.
But what AC is saying is true. If you and everybody is worried about their trade and will interfere to keep it safe, then Stilistra has every right to invade the ASE. Since trade routes by sea have been totally cut off.
AC, the other nations do not KNOW that Stilistra will not attack them. Misconceptions often lead to war. The other powers could fear a domino effect. Stilistra consumed the ASE, becomes more powerful, continues building up, and then can rival the other powers in the area and invade them. Akiiryu may very well want to cut the head off the cub before it can become a lion. Miiros, Damak Var, and yourself clearly disagree with this because we’re all reaching out to Stilistra. The others nations’ positions on the matter is still unclear and the northwestern summit can result in a giant argument over what to do just as easily as it can result in a unified front against Stilistra.
Remember, in reality things do not always follow a clear logical path. What seems clear to one, can be hazy for another. AC may see Stilistra within their rights while Akiiryu or Adaptus sees a blossoming tyrant. The differing worldviews lead to conflict and conflict creates good RP.
I propose an IC conference when ASE institutes the embargo and cuts off Stilistra’s trade routes. We will discuss, debate, and negociate until the international community gives the “go ahead” to attack the ASE.
Ha ha, okay, AC. 
The war in the name of peace, I’m only saying it because real nations use it all the time. It’s just a fact. Strike first and strike hard. Besides, as I was pointing out before, I didn’t say Stilistra was going to do anything necessarily.
So we all automatically have trade relations with all the other unclaimed nations?
I’ve already assumed this in the past. Except that, I’m not necessarily calling them nations. You know how often we talk about the “native life” in a region where we plow through, well, perhaps our nations have trade with certain groups. I’m not saying it’s automatic, I’m saying Deltannia has them.
The Nuremberg images, to get a point across? There are many kinds of rally images to show, and to show Nazi ones, while it doesn’t necessarily mean they are Nazi, does show them to becoming militaristic. I’m sure there are plenty of other images to show Europa of more peaceful rallies.
You’re talking about Akiiryu’s embargo, but then we can keep going back further and further and keep passing the blame. The point is, the situation is the way it is now, and all nations are going to deal with it as best as they can. Deltannia isn’t going to just sit out and watch this one. Events are growing and escalating. If nothing happens, then nothing happens. I don’t know what’s going to happen. But Deltannia is, like other nations, one that does not like to be caught off its guard.
I’ll admit Stilistra has some Nazi traits, I just don’t see any racial supremacy ideals and anti-semitism.
A conference would be best. Although it would take away the element of suprise when invading the ASE.
Stilistra will just need a very good pretext for war. The ASE trade embargo and cutting off of trade routes, ASE aggression, and perhaps crafting a few things on his own like an “incident”.
Also, there’s a difference between building up a military and building up a war machine. If you recall in the IC thread, there are broadcasts pictures of something looking fairly Nazi-like. If I were Akiiryu, I don’t think I’d be too happy.
AC’s got it a little better. I’m not trying to advocate that I’m waltzing down that same path to continent wide war and… uh, other things; rather I’m trying to show that the plebians are absolutely in love with Cass just as the Gerries were with Adolf back in the day.
Three new pages in as many days. Dang…
Washington said “The best way to preserve peace is to be well prepared to meet the enemy.” Can’t say I’d blame 'em for preparing, but attacking Stilistra first doesn’t preserve peace, which is the purpose of the meeting if I ain’t mistaken, it just starts the war they fear anyway.
All those posts and I can’t see 'em all to respond…
AC;
as to your comments about the SPA and ASE closing their borders to Stilistran trade…that is their right as sovereign nations. Its they’re territory, theay can damned well please who goes in and out (if you want a, admittedly, weak RL analogy think of the way the US makes all people flying over US soil go throw customs and have their baggage checked, even if they are not stopping in the US). If this reason, BJE, Akiiryu would not support any attack on the ASE.
Moreover, please note that OOC Stilistra has repeatedily stated that IC Stilistra is trying to force the ASE into war…
Miiros’ post about different world views is a good one, and well worth considering. Akiiryu’s views on Cass are well known, and are reflected in her stance.
Covertly. You don’t actually have proof of what Stilistra is planning…
And if the ASE begins squeezing Stilistra, that can be a reason for war; without that trade Stilistra dies. The ASE must know that, and if they pinch the river, Stilistra will be forced to act or perish.
*Stilistra can now use it’s TG to Akiiryu about resumig normalcy to say that the Akkiiryans, if they attack, are arrgessors. Cass offered and hoped to prevent negative consquences, and Aki refused. It’ll be their fault if relations deteriorate…
Problem is Stilistra, that telegram and the reason for it are about as subtle as a brick. Moreoever, Akiiryu picks its justifications for war VERY carefully…indeed, it is already building its case.
Building it’s case on what? The secret IC information you don’t have? The OOC chatter you can’t use? Sedition Act? As though Akiiryu has a free press… Syndication? It’s just an economic plan. Can’t attack him for that. Enabling Act? Well, the USA has one too. It hasn’t been used in 159 years, but Cass hasn’t used his either. Expatriation? US has that one too… The rallies? Can’t attack him for throwing a party. Building his military? Perfectly justified considering how militaristic Akiiryu already is.
Why then is Akiiryu so eager to start fighting? Adsoc? You can’t claim Cass is going to do the same things. At least, not yet.
The fact of the matter is. AdSoc happend, and used similar methods to in the end, boot out the Kind, and begin plans to expand. And did start to expand.
Akiiryu watched this closely, as it is watching this situaton carefully, it has identified similar traits from both revolutions, and looking at past experiences, thats bad. So Akiiyu is taking the nessasary steps to prevent history repeating itself.
AC,
A couple or so things in response to your questions
First, there is no need for that kind of tone. You’re welcome to question, but do so in a manner that is less likely to be read as an attack.
Second, I have repeatedly stated Akiiryu’s POV on Stilistra. Take a little time to go through earlier posts and you’ll see why Akiiryu is doing what it is doing. Miiros also made some good points, as it FACG.
Third; I don’t use OOC to my advantage IC. Here is what what Akiiryu knows at a very minimum:
Cass came to power in very questionable circumstances.
Cass passed a number of questionable laws, that hint at his underlying ideology.
Cass holds highly nationalistic rallies
The Stilistran military is expanding rapidly
Stilistra is reaching out to countries, such as the AC, that Akiiryu doesn’t trust (at best.
Finally, if Akiiryu choses war, which it might not, it will have iron cast reasons for doing so.
First, sorry for the harsh tone. I had a bit of a bad day yesterday and it leaked out there… sorry…
But…
Cass came to power, and the people love him. “Gov’t by consent of the governed…” Seems they consent to Cass; totally.
Passed laws that many other nations have. The most questionable one isn’t being enforced. (Also, Akiiryu is a monarchy, yes? So doesn’t the prince rule by decree? Is the Baronic Coucil elected? Isn’t that an enabling act of sorts?)
He holds rallies, giving everyone a sense of belonging and pride in their nation.
Their military doubled, making it half as small.
Stilistra has every right to trade and make relations.
Stilistra, I’d like if Aemilianus could swing by Philidelphia after his meeting in Miiros. ok? sweeeeeet
Apology noted, and accepted. Thanks.
As to your points. You may well be right, but Akiiryu doesn’t see it that way. That is what is important.